Planning Committee - Wednesday 8 February 2023, 6:30pm - Start video at 0:24:17 - Tunbridge Wells Borough Council Webcasting

Planning Committee
Wednesday, 8th February 2023 at 6:30pm 









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1 Chair's Introduction

good evening.
welcome to this meeting of the Planning Committee on Wednesday, 8 February 2023.
I am Councillor Paul Chair of this Committee.
before we get onto the agenda items, please give your full attention to the following announcements from our Clark, Mrs. Murray,
thank you, Chair and good evening everybody in the event of the fire alarm ringing continuously, you must immediately evacuate the building at walking, pace officers will escort to be the most direct available route, and none is to use the lift.
we will make our way to the fire assembly point, which is by the entrance to the Town Hall Yard car park, on months away, and once outside a check would be made to ensure everyone has safely left and no one is to re-enter the building until advised that it is safe to do so this is a public meeting and proceedings are being webcast live online or recording will also be available for playback on the council's website shortly afterwards.
can I remind everyone to use their microphones when speaking the red light indicates, the microphone is on and comments that are not recorded for the webcast will not be included in the minutes of the meeting. You should be aware that any third party is able to record or film council meetings unless exempt or confidential information is being considered. The council will not accept liability for any third party recordings. It is very important that the outcomes of the meeting are clear. At the end of each substantive item, a vote will be taken by a show of hands. Members should raise their hands to indicate their vote and keep their hands up until the count has been announced. Members requesting a recorded vote must do so before the vote is taken. Thank you Chair,
thank you for the benefit of the recording we are now going to take a roll call.
so we have expected Members here this evening, Councillor Attwood.
no should were present.
Councillor planned.
Councillor Procter, Alan present Councillor Fitzsimmons.
Councillor Johnson.
Councillor Jackson, present Councillor Page.
prevent Councillor Moon.
Councillor Pattison
Councillor Pope.
Councillor White.
Councillor, Whyte present Councillor Neville's Vice Chair,
Councillor Paul Chair, prisons.
thank you and are expected officers here this evening, Richard Hazel Grove prison.
Abbey shilling for.
James Taylor,
Tracey Wagstaffe pressing.
thank you, just for the benefit of the record, and Councillor LB Cabinet Member for Housing, and Planning is also at the meeting this evening.
thank you.
I would like to remind everyone is a full meeting of the Planning Committee and it should be no disorderly conduct conduct or other misbehaviour including clapping of interruptions by members of the public at this evening's meeting if such conduct as a cow for it to cease should behaviour which I consider unacceptable continue, I may well consider suspending the meeting if the behaviour resumes when business recommences those responsible will be excluded in order to leave the Council Chamber members of the Committee should be familiar with the process but for the benefit of any members of the public who may be watching.
I would like to explain a couple of things.
committee members come from wards across the borough and, although they may have local knowledge when they make planning decisions, they must consider each application in come in the context of the whole borough area.
committee members have had their agendas for over a week and have had the opportunity to study visas and to clarify any issues with planning officers, so vote members of the public might wonder why some matches are not discussed in more detail at the meeting, it may well be that Members have already asked these questions obtained satisfactory answers.
when we come to the substantive items on the agenda this evening.
the officer, a first set out in the report of in us any speakers to address the committee before we will move on into Member discussion at the end of the debate, I will try to summarise the Committee's view and members should ensure that any proposals or actions are correctly captured before a vote is taken.

2 Apologies

we now move on to Item 2 apologies for absence, Mrs. Marian, do we have any apologies for absence?
we have apologies from Councillor Wakeman, the saving Chair.

3 Declarations of Interest

thank you, declarations of interest members of the Committee should declare at this point if they have any declarations of pecuniary a significant of interest or if they fit fetter, the discretion and needs were drove from the meeting.
while a particular application is heard that any Member has a declaration to make.
I see none, thank you.

4 Declarations of Lobbying (in accordance with the Protocol for Members taking part in the Planning Process, Part 5, Section 5.11, Paragraph 6.6)

declarations of lobbying members of the Committee should declare at this point if they had been lobbied on any of the application in in today's agenda, the clock could ask each member in turn police take on which application you have been lobbied, if any and wherever it is by objectors, supporters or both.
thank you, Chair Councillor Attwood.
no lobbying Councillor Baillie.
Councillor Birch Alan
many lobby.
Councillor Fitzsimmons, Mia lobbying Councillor Johnson.
no lobbying.
no love-in.
Councillor Moon.
no lobbying.
Councillor Pattison
no lobbying.
Councillor Pope, my love you, Councillor White, no lobbying.
Councillor level, no lobbying.
Councillor Paul no lobby,
thank you Chair.

5 Site Inspections

ITEM 5 site inspections, members did not carry out any site visits.

6 To approve the minutes of the meeting dated Wednesday 18 January 2023

we now move on to Item 6 to approve the minutes of the meeting dated Windsor, the 18th of January 2022.
Jess 2023 song.
members asked to confirm that the minutes of the previous meeting are true record of the proceedings, please, may I remind members, but the only matter for discussion is the accuracy, do Members have any other comments?
I see, none are, we all happy to agree, the it beat these minutes, are we agreed agreed, I think those minutes are now agreed and Mrs. Moran, you want to add something.
yes, thank you Chair, this is just to confirm and Councillor LB attendance at previous planning committees which wasn't recorded so it just to confirm his attendance on the 1st of September 2022 28th September 2022, the 19th of October 22 16th of November 22 and the 7th of December 2022, so just confirming and that will be recorded in the minutes, thank you.

7 Reports of Head of Planning Services (attached)

we now move on to item 7 reports of the Head of Planning Services, these reports are the those of the Head of Planning Services.
a presentation were provided by the case officer for the applications.
but for those members of the public listening, I would like to be clear that the considerations, conclusions and recommendations of the report of those of the Head of Planning Services noted the individual case offices.
the order of business this evening will be as set out in the agenda.

7 a) Application for Consideration - 22/03350/FULL 1 Littleworth Cottages, Etherington Hill, Speldhurst, Tunbridge Wells, Kent.

first, application is evenings item 7, a 22 stroke 0 Free Free 5 0 1 little, we've cut his efforts in Hill Speldhurst, Mr. Tyler, your presentation, please.
thank you Chair this application relates to one user of cottages in Edlington herewith Spouthouse application has been submitted by an elected Member which was brought to Committee.
as you say, the site is to the right hand, side of the east of Stonehouse limits and cities outside news for development within the R and B and the Metropolitan Green Belt.
as the view to the front of the property.
is situated immediately on the junction of Etherington Hill and Stockland Green Road, within a property within a row of properties are situated on a hill rises, heading no, and I can say, is set back from the public highway, behind a small drive end, with soft landscaping to the front boundary.
as the view to the rear, there is an existing rear extension in place at consisting of a white or light blue horizontal cladding it measures are currently 1.8 1 metres, deep at 3.00.1 6 metres at maximum class.
that's the view to the south, the attached neighbour, to to of cottages, I do have an existing rear extension, which you can see in that vote, I, it's no planning history, free the addition, but it is when compared to the existing Level 1 around three metres deep.
as the beautiful enough the old cottage urging safe for Wyre Forest, it's in a much higher ground level, the fence on the boundary treatment reaches the eaves of that sort of side extension.
as the existing principle elevation, there is an existing canopy roof above the front door and that garage store forms part of a side extension extends the full debt for the house and was approved in 2000 and voting.
and, as existing re, the daughter left-hand side to the to the left hand side of the existing rear extension forms the back of the previously mentioned side extension.
existing Ground floor Plan, the original dwelling consisted, a sitting room, the kitchen and dining room and the garage utility room from the 2015 side extension and that existing rear extension is the room to the right-hand side of utility wear.
that's proposed Principal and southern side elevations, as you see, poachers proposed to be removing existing carry poach, with bin store to the left-hand side of that, following a site that the bins currently stored in front of the garage those materials which would consist of materials to match, arrives at a housebuilding.
that's proposed rear extension, it would be 34 centimetres, lie within easy slimmer extension and will consist of brickwork to match existing dwelling.
I would be deeper than existing rear extension to 2.1 9 metres at 4.00.1 9 May at 4.00 metres, max death, but the width would remain the same.
since the delegated quote was written at the agent, provided the volume calculations the existing buildings is currently represents, a 46% volume in Graves, I've original dwelling as proposed, would be a 61% volume increase.
Even site which living states an approximate increase of around 50% could be considered modest.
a volume increase or must be balanced with the design, and in this instance it would not be considered to dominate or distort the proportion of the original dwelling, no objects were safe.
officer recommendations to approve
it can be considered to comply with the relevant Local Plan policies, the Core Strategy is can contained within 2010 and the National Planning Policy Framework, thank you, thank you, we have no speakers on this item can make committee members, do, do you have any questions for the officers?
I see no questions if we don't have any questions when moving discussion into discussion, please.
Councillor Page.
all questions.
the building is not significant enough to be Grade II listed, but it is definitely of its time and the porch door has got rectangular windows and all of the other fenestration on both Cottages is got square windows, so I just like to met to minute that as a comment please thank you so much so that was on the question in.
OK right.
it's or do I have to see a proposal from anybody Councillor Pattison?
I propose the Oxford office recommendation, it seems a modest extension to me and I'm sure be granted if it wasn't for Member business, yes, be treated the same as it would be anyway, so I propose the officers' recommendation, thank you, Councillor Patterson,
the and Councillor blend,
I second that proposal.
if they had no no.
I see no hands up for any further discussion, it has been proposed by Councillor Pattison and seconded by Councillor blend, to approve the application in line with the officers' recommendations, all those in favour, please show.
12 fours Chair.
against and abstentions, 1 abstention Chair OK, thank of that application is bad for approved.

7 b) Application for Consideration - 22/03621/LBC Assembly Hall Theatre, Crescent Road, Royal Tunbridge Wells, Kent.

we now move on to item 7 be.
22 stroke 0 3 6 2 1
Assembly Hall, fair to Christian road.
Ms Shillingford, for your presentation, please.
thank you Chair.
say this is an application for the Assembly Hall theatre, more specifically, the northern side of the building which is accessed one month's one way is Grade II listed, they can see the specific site.
as a matter showing a listed building and the listed buildings around.
and that's the aerial.
since the fire today looking at it for months on way.
and this is the internal photos which were taken from the submitted design, access and heritage statement.
since the existing block Plan, you can see the red line the around the surgery area, which is zoomed in along the existing floor plan.
and these are the existing elevations.
this listed building consent application is sought for the construction of a new means of escape in the primary reason for this is a for fire safety.
actually put forward two options, this is option one, as you can see, the read, Sir, will their outlines, the main difference between the two, so we've option 1, the internal door is going from the loo corridor and is into the survey and is facing towards the office and based do and then,
in other elevations to show.
if I can just get forward to this one for second option, 2, here again, if you look at the red circle, so the difference with this one, the doors would instead.
the Code of would extend around to that office, based on those internal doors would be located essentially facing towards lounge lounge bar, so the the main difference between the two options is the location of those internal doors.
this is the elevations for that which, as you can see here.
On elevation D is showing the main differences between the two with the location of the doors.
and he has the section showing that.
on this one, you can't see the internal doors, obviously because of that change.
so from the comments from the conservation officer, he has concluded that there would be less than substantial harm, but we can support it because, as the application is for fire safety, it would result in increased levels of safety, and so there's a clear public benefit for that and it would allow the buildings continued use to its full capacity so the recommendation is to grant listed building consent subject to the conditions which on page 26 of the agenda and that does include,
specifying they will need to submit details of which option they are going to go for prior to.
continuing, and I would also like to point out that.
and the report.
within the report at paragraph 10 0 8 on the last line, there is a typing error.
it currently says on the last line, but they will, the local planning authority will need to be notified to which a condition, and that should say which option the applicant intends to proceed with, thank you.
thank you.
we had no speakers on this item, committee members, questions of the officers.
Councillor Booth.
thank you Chair.
my main.
queries question is that when you read 2 dot OWA, both options appear to add.
benefit or there is no difference between the two options, so there's a member trying to make a decision on which option to go for.
I wasn't quite sure of which way.
to go or to support unassuming in may be a cost issue here or a particularly aesthetic, though it fits in with the building with the new improvements, but he doesn't seem to come over quite clear in the
report, so I wonder if that could be clarified, thank you, yes, Michelin fitted or Mr. Days ago, can you clarify what we're deciding to know?
thank you Chair, the application is actually for if members were to grant consent, lighting would actually be for both options and then the applicant is required to prior to starting any works is quite a notify us.
through the wording of condition 3 4, which option they are going to go ahead with.
yeah, so that's so members are being asked to choose one or the other options, might it's whether they consider this application, which includes both options, is is acceptable, thank you.
Councillor Rania, I accept that, but if it could be made in the future a bit more clearer, if that says a situation of the application because other applications we've had different options and took point to alternatives to vote on, it's not quite clear in the report and to the members of the public may be.
that we are voting for boast options, it gives the impression when you put an option there, that means you've got a choice.
thank you.
do we have any further questions?
if we have no further questions, we move into discussion.
and if nobody has anything to say do have a proposal rights, I Coe spoke for choice.
all staff kept councillor Councillor Bruce Alan, would you like to propose in line with RIP officers' recommendations, yes, Nancy, thank you, I'd like to propose the officers' recommendations, thank you, and do I see a seconder?
Councillor Fitzhenry, I'm happy to second year.
OK, we've nailed, but has been proposed by Councillor Birch Alan and sickening by Councillor Simmons.
to approve his act application in line with the officers' recommendations.
all those in favour, please show
at synonymous, Chair, this done.
thank you.
the application is therefore approved.

8 Appeal Decisions for Noting 10 January 2023 to 30 January 2023

item 8 appeal decisions for noting 10 4 January 2023 to 30 4 January 2023, this report is set out from page 63 of the agenda if any Members have questions relating to the enforcement report.
they should be raised with the Planning officers outside the meeting

9 Urgent Business

10 Date of Next Meeting

ITEM 9, urgent business, I can confirm there is no such business Item, 10 Date of next meeting, The next meetings on Thursday, the 2nd of March 2023. The meeting is now closed. Thank you all for your attendance, thank you Chair,